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     No.176

    >WHY IS music called the divine art, while all other arts are not so called? We may certainly see God in all arts and in all sciences, but in music alone we see God free from all forms and thoughts. In every other art there is idolatry. Every thought, every word has its form. Sound alone is free from form. Every word of poetry forms a picture in our mind. Sound alone does not make any object appear before us.
    >As to what we call music in everyday language — to me architecture is music, gardening is music, farming is music, painting is music, poetry is music. In all the occupations of life where beauty has been the inspiration, where the divine wine has been poured out, there is music. But among all the different arts, the art of music has been especially considered divine, because it is the exact miniature of the law working through the whole universe.
    >Hazrat Inayat Khan

    If they're serious, then I really can't help laughing. What I am most dissatisfied with about those sages of occultism perennial school is that they only use their religious experiential way to describe music or some other art like this. The result is just an overly general definition. If we replace "music" in the sentence with "love", "poetry" or something else publicly recognized as beauty, those sentences are also suitable for any random sages of the perennial school. I've read Schuon's poetry a bit some time ago, but because the content is too general, I think it ultimately lacks spirituality. When Schuon was young, he was said to be deeply influenced by the German romanticism and Sturm und Drang, and he wrote his first poem under this influence, but after becoming older, his poetry became more impersonal and didactical. Tbh I really don't like didactic poems at all, those sages always put themselves in the position of masters or leaders of a community, which really cringe to me.
    Steiner is obviously different from most sages of this kind though.

     No.177

    >>176
    >If we replace "music" in the sentence with "love", "poetry" or something else publicly recognized as beauty, those sentences are also suitable for any random sages of the perennial school.
    Correct. And that's divine simplicity.

     No.180

    >>177
    Do you mean perennial school believes the idea of divine simplicity, so they always tend to make eclecticism claims like this?
    I have not yet considered them from any central idea in the history of philosophy. I think so mainly because I encountered the concept of alpha-conversion proposed by Alonzo Church for lambda-calculus some time ago, which made me gradually feel that those claims are very suspicious simply because the replaceability of those "variables" (music or architecture, painting and other arts) in sentences in terms of their context.

     No.189

    >>177
    >>180
    That is absolutely not divine simplicity as I understand it, though there are many versions of divine simplicity. The most widely used version and the standard usage of the term refers to the metaphysical position that God is pure act of Being itself, and Being itself is good and beautiful etc. So God is not some'thing' that is 'Good' which can be alpha-substituted by, say, 'Beauty', but the only term that is simultaneously the subject and the predicate.

     No.190

    >>189
    >It [existence] is not a real or determining predicate, for it does not add any determinate feature or content to the concept of an object [so far, complete agreement with Kant]. Rather ‘-exists’ is a non-determining predicate; It is taken to designate that activity which is the reason why things have any determining predicates at all. Existence is here understood as ‘active’ existence or ‘actualization.
    > What Aristotle had conceived as the highest and most perfect kind of ‘divine’ being’ was the activity of νόησιϛ νόησεωϛ or ‘thought thinking itself’. The divine life in Christian theology and speculation was conceived indeed as essentially an activity rather than a ‘substance’ and as triune in its interrelations.

    God's Esse is essentia, since God is pure act of Being. That is divine simplicity.